Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 3
Sanjay Kishore Dadlani
Middlesex University Student Residing In The UK
I would like to preface this article with two quotes from Sanjay. The importance and relevance of these quotes cannot be underestimated and wholly compromise Sanjay's lamentable, wishy-washy and contradictory arguments:
Sanjay poorly supported his arguments in his "Sai Baba Shirdi Lies" series by citing the following references:
REFERENCE ONE:
Citations From: Narayana Kasturi
Source(s): Sathyam Shivam Sundaram; Easwaramma - The Chosen Mother
Sanjay's Position: REJECTED: On the QuickTopic Forum, Sanjay repeatedly claimed that Kasturi "couldn't even get one fact right", had "poor research skills" and indulged in "poorly-researched fairy stories that are self-contradictory".
REFERENCE TWO:
Citations From: Ra. Ganapathi
Source(s): Baba: Sathya Sai
Sanjay's Position: REJECTED: Sanjay said, about Ganapathi's commentaries, "this is a very obtuse, tangled and unsatisfactory explanation for why it is possible for the powerful spirit of Shirdi Sai Baba to take possession of the young Raju and continue his works through him", "any amount of self-serving reasoning by Ganapati or other authors favourable to Sathya Sai needs to be taken with a pinch of salt" and "there is very little evidence that Ganapati performed any independent research except for that which serves the cause of propagating the name of Sathya Sai".
REFERENCE THREE:
Citations From: Various Sai Devotees and Sai Relatives
Source(s): LIMF (Love Is My Form) Volume 1
Sanjay's Position: ACCEPTED: Read My Article About Sanjay's Amusing Acceptance Of LIMF despite the fact that LIMF heavily relied on (and frequently cited) the works of Ganapathi and Kasturi, both of whom Sanjay rejected as unreliable (what does that make LIMF?). Sanjay also accepted LIMF despite claiming "...any amount of self-serving reasoning by Ganapati or other authors favourable to Sathya Sai needs to be taken with a pinch of salt...Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like." LIMF was authored by Sai Devotees who held/hold wholly favorable views on Sathya Sai Baba. Then why did Sanjay cite a "self serving" book written by authors "favorable to Sathya Sai"? Why would Sanjay cite LIMF when it cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because it talks about reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materializations and the like? Sanjay cherry picks his criticisms and cites entirely self-serving quotes as reliable, while dismissing everything else as unreliable.
REFERENCE FOUR:
Citations From: Dr. Satya Pal Ruhela
Source(s): Sai Baba And His Message
Sanjay's Position: ACCEPTED: This is an amusing reference that Sanjay accepted about a man from Hyderabad named "Naranayana Baba" who is a trance medium who claimed that the disembodied soul of Shirdi Sai Baba not only talks to him, but that Sai Baba also puts items into his closed hand that instantly materialize when he opens his fist! Because this trance medium is allegedly in contact with Sai Baba's "disembodied soul", Sanjay used this reference to support his argument that Shirdi Sai Baba did not reincarnate as Sathya Sai Baba! Sanjay said, "...any amount of self-serving reasoning by Ganapati or other authors favourable to Sathya Sai needs to be taken with a pinch of salt...Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like." Then why did Sanjay cite a "self serving" book written by an author "favorable to Sathya Sai"? Why would Sanjay cite a book that cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because it talks about reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materializations and the like (including trance mediumship)? What gullible and naive audience is Sanjay attempting to address?
REFERENCE FIVE:
Citations From: His Holiness B.V. Narasimha Swamiji
Source(s): Life Of Sai Baba; Sri Sai Baba's Charters & Sayings
Sanjay's Position: ACCEPTED: His Holiness B.V. Narasimha Swamiji (henceforth referred to as "Narasimha") is an ardent devotee of Shirdi Sai Baba who considers him to be God (literally). Narasimha Swami said:
Because Narasimha voiced the opinion that there are no successors to Shirdi Sai Baba, Sanjay immediately cited Narasimha as an authority and stated, "We couldn't have put it better." Nevertheless, one is left to wonder why Sanjay would cite and agree with Narasimha when Sanjay does not believe anything (except self-serving quotes) that Narasimha has to say? For starters, Sanjay is a Hare Krishna Congregational Member who does not accept or believe that Shirdi Sai Baba is God. Since Narasimha's comments and arguments are derived soley from his perception of Sai Baba's Godhood, why would Sanjay cite and agree with Narasimha? As a matter of fact, Sanjay said, on Google Groups (using the name "SANJAY DADLANI" and "Dark Knight"):
Sanjay's reference to Narasimha is deflated. Sanjay does not believe or accept anything that Narasimha has to say except his comments about Shirdi Sai Baba having no successor. That's it. It is exactly this type of self-serving hypocrisy that thoroughly compromises all of Sanjay's arguments and critiques.
Furthermore, why would Sanjay cite Narasimha's books when they cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because they talk about reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materializations and the like (including Sai Baba's alleged ability to control other's minds, create objects at any distance and his power to appear and do anything anywhere)?
REFERENCE SIX:
Citations From: V. & Shakuntala Balu
Source(s): Divine Glory
Sanjay's Position: ACCEPTED: Once again, why did Sanjay cite a "self serving" book written by authors "favorable to Sathya Sai"? Why would Sanjay cite a book that cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because it talks about reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materializations and the like (including bilocation, psychic phenomena and healings)?
IN CONCLUSION:
All (without exception) of Sanjay's references are wholly compromised by his contradictory statements and personal beliefs. Sanjay's arguments against Sathya Sai Baba are one huge farce.
Sanjay cannot cite any reputable, reliable or neutral sources to formulate his flimsy contentions against Sathya Sai Baba. Sanjay exclusively relies on the books & publications of both Shirdi and Sathya Sai Devotees. Sanjay argued that one must take the "self serving reasoning" of "authors favorable to Sathya Sai" with a "pinch of salt". Strange enough, ALL of Sanjay's references (except one reference from a Shirdi Sai Devotee who believes Sai Baba is God) is taken from "authors favorable to Sathya Sai" whose "self serving reasoning" must be taken with a "pinch of salt". Sanjay refuted his own references from his own mouth.
Not only did Sanjay cite "authors favorable to Sathya Sai" whose "self serving reasoning" must be taken with a "pinch of salt", he also claimed:
As stated before, Sanjay is a Hare Krishna Congregational Member who fully believes in the divine authority of the Srimad Bhagavatam that promotes belief in: A geocentric universe, reincarnation, demons, black magic, ghosts, hobgoblins, miracles, manifestatations, shape-shifters, the Sun being closer to the Earth than the Moon, a demon's head floating in outer space as the cause of eclipses, the Sun being the only star in the universe and all other twinkling stars are similar to the Moon, the Himalayas are 80,000 miles high (they are actually 4.92 miles high), the diameter of the Earth is 807,780 miles (it is actually 7,800 miles), the entire universe ends just prior to Pluto, Lord Krishna literally manifested 16,000 human forms, married 16,000 women and procreated with each one of them and many other simply unbelievable stories (Refs: 01 - 02)!
According to Sanjay, he, his Hare Krishna Gurus (Srila Prahbupada & Srila Gour Govinda Swami) and billions of Christians, Hindus, Gaudiya Vaishanvas and Buddhists are not "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because they believe in either miracles, manifestations, reincarnation, possessions and the like!
According to Sanjay, scriptures like the Bible, Koran, Vedas, Puranas, Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, Upanishads, Ramayana, Dhammapada, Tanakh, Talmud, Kabbalah and others cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because these scriptures discuss and promote belief in either miracles, manifestations, reincarnation, possessions and the like!
Sanjay has effectively disgraced himself, his belief system, his Gurus and his God concept. The hypocrite extraordinaire has succeeded only in revealing his duplicity, self-serving agenda and hypocrisy. No one can believe a fully exposed pervert, Jesus & Boot sex fetishist, self-professed drunk and pathological liar. Enough said.
Middlesex University Student Residing In The UK
I would like to preface this article with two quotes from Sanjay. The importance and relevance of these quotes cannot be underestimated and wholly compromise Sanjay's lamentable, wishy-washy and contradictory arguments:
...any amount of self-serving reasoning by Ganapati or other authors favourable to Sathya Sai needs to be taken with a pinch of salt...
Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like.
Sanjay poorly supported his arguments in his "Sai Baba Shirdi Lies" series by citing the following references:
REFERENCE ONE:
Citations From: Narayana Kasturi
Source(s): Sathyam Shivam Sundaram; Easwaramma - The Chosen Mother
Sanjay's Position: REJECTED: On the QuickTopic Forum, Sanjay repeatedly claimed that Kasturi "couldn't even get one fact right", had "poor research skills" and indulged in "poorly-researched fairy stories that are self-contradictory".
REFERENCE TWO:
Citations From: Ra. Ganapathi
Source(s): Baba: Sathya Sai
Sanjay's Position: REJECTED: Sanjay said, about Ganapathi's commentaries, "this is a very obtuse, tangled and unsatisfactory explanation for why it is possible for the powerful spirit of Shirdi Sai Baba to take possession of the young Raju and continue his works through him", "any amount of self-serving reasoning by Ganapati or other authors favourable to Sathya Sai needs to be taken with a pinch of salt" and "there is very little evidence that Ganapati performed any independent research except for that which serves the cause of propagating the name of Sathya Sai".
REFERENCE THREE:
Citations From: Various Sai Devotees and Sai Relatives
Source(s): LIMF (Love Is My Form) Volume 1
Sanjay's Position: ACCEPTED: Read My Article About Sanjay's Amusing Acceptance Of LIMF despite the fact that LIMF heavily relied on (and frequently cited) the works of Ganapathi and Kasturi, both of whom Sanjay rejected as unreliable (what does that make LIMF?). Sanjay also accepted LIMF despite claiming "...any amount of self-serving reasoning by Ganapati or other authors favourable to Sathya Sai needs to be taken with a pinch of salt...Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like." LIMF was authored by Sai Devotees who held/hold wholly favorable views on Sathya Sai Baba. Then why did Sanjay cite a "self serving" book written by authors "favorable to Sathya Sai"? Why would Sanjay cite LIMF when it cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because it talks about reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materializations and the like? Sanjay cherry picks his criticisms and cites entirely self-serving quotes as reliable, while dismissing everything else as unreliable.
REFERENCE FOUR:
Citations From: Dr. Satya Pal Ruhela
Source(s): Sai Baba And His Message
Sanjay's Position: ACCEPTED: This is an amusing reference that Sanjay accepted about a man from Hyderabad named "Naranayana Baba" who is a trance medium who claimed that the disembodied soul of Shirdi Sai Baba not only talks to him, but that Sai Baba also puts items into his closed hand that instantly materialize when he opens his fist! Because this trance medium is allegedly in contact with Sai Baba's "disembodied soul", Sanjay used this reference to support his argument that Shirdi Sai Baba did not reincarnate as Sathya Sai Baba! Sanjay said, "...any amount of self-serving reasoning by Ganapati or other authors favourable to Sathya Sai needs to be taken with a pinch of salt...Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like." Then why did Sanjay cite a "self serving" book written by an author "favorable to Sathya Sai"? Why would Sanjay cite a book that cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because it talks about reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materializations and the like (including trance mediumship)? What gullible and naive audience is Sanjay attempting to address?
REFERENCE FIVE:
Citations From: His Holiness B.V. Narasimha Swamiji
Source(s): Life Of Sai Baba; Sri Sai Baba's Charters & Sayings
Sanjay's Position: ACCEPTED: His Holiness B.V. Narasimha Swamiji (henceforth referred to as "Narasimha") is an ardent devotee of Shirdi Sai Baba who considers him to be God (literally). Narasimha Swami said:
My hunger for spiritual food was not satisfied, till I came to Shirdi. At Shirdi, I was given more than I could lake. I had at last discovered my Sadguru. He is Samartha Sadguru and I live in constant communion with him...
But these have occasionally been mentioned in the columns of the 'Sai Sudha' or other papers and invariably on investigation, it has been noted that any person, claiming to be Sai Baba, does not show even a very small fraction of Baba's nature. Mere power to read thought, mere clairvoyance, mere production of articles from empty box and hands and mere devotion to Sai or God, will not constitute one into an Avatar of Sai. So, we might conclude this chapter by saying that Sai left no successor to his seat, that there was no seat to succeed to, (as God's seat can never be vacant) and that there is no person living who can be recognised by all as having the entire Sai spirit or Soul in his body, that is, who can be regarded as the Avatar of Sai...
Therefore the question of our finding any person now who is the Avatar of Baba need not be further discussed. It is sufficient to say that those who are anxious to benefit by Sai Baba will be very wise if they confine themselves to the well known history of Sai Baba; and if they adopt the usual and well known methods for contacting Sai Baba of Shirdi, who is now no other than God himself, they would succeed, and they need not be panting to discover if there is any Avatar of Sai Baba or anyone who is entitled to call himself the successor of Sai Baba for the Shirdi Gadi. God's seat we repeat is never vacant. Sai Baba was and is God always immersed in the God idea, and carrying out God's lilas when he was in the flesh. His Ritambhara Prajna or Antarjnana, as it was called, his control over men's minds and material objects at any distance, his power to appear and do anything anywhere, can only be called divine. These powers we read of in his lilas before 1918, and we read of the same also after 1918...
Because Narasimha voiced the opinion that there are no successors to Shirdi Sai Baba, Sanjay immediately cited Narasimha as an authority and stated, "We couldn't have put it better." Nevertheless, one is left to wonder why Sanjay would cite and agree with Narasimha when Sanjay does not believe anything (except self-serving quotes) that Narasimha has to say? For starters, Sanjay is a Hare Krishna Congregational Member who does not accept or believe that Shirdi Sai Baba is God. Since Narasimha's comments and arguments are derived soley from his perception of Sai Baba's Godhood, why would Sanjay cite and agree with Narasimha? As a matter of fact, Sanjay said, on Google Groups (using the name "SANJAY DADLANI" and "Dark Knight"):
Shirdi Sai Baba can go to hell (View Thread or View Single Post)
If you knew the amount of damage that this "religious teacher" has caused to so many lives, you may understand the curse. DK (View Thread or View Single Post)
Sanjay's reference to Narasimha is deflated. Sanjay does not believe or accept anything that Narasimha has to say except his comments about Shirdi Sai Baba having no successor. That's it. It is exactly this type of self-serving hypocrisy that thoroughly compromises all of Sanjay's arguments and critiques.
Furthermore, why would Sanjay cite Narasimha's books when they cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because they talk about reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materializations and the like (including Sai Baba's alleged ability to control other's minds, create objects at any distance and his power to appear and do anything anywhere)?
REFERENCE SIX:
Citations From: V. & Shakuntala Balu
Source(s): Divine Glory
Sanjay's Position: ACCEPTED: Once again, why did Sanjay cite a "self serving" book written by authors "favorable to Sathya Sai"? Why would Sanjay cite a book that cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because it talks about reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materializations and the like (including bilocation, psychic phenomena and healings)?
IN CONCLUSION:
All (without exception) of Sanjay's references are wholly compromised by his contradictory statements and personal beliefs. Sanjay's arguments against Sathya Sai Baba are one huge farce.
Sanjay cannot cite any reputable, reliable or neutral sources to formulate his flimsy contentions against Sathya Sai Baba. Sanjay exclusively relies on the books & publications of both Shirdi and Sathya Sai Devotees. Sanjay argued that one must take the "self serving reasoning" of "authors favorable to Sathya Sai" with a "pinch of salt". Strange enough, ALL of Sanjay's references (except one reference from a Shirdi Sai Devotee who believes Sai Baba is God) is taken from "authors favorable to Sathya Sai" whose "self serving reasoning" must be taken with a "pinch of salt". Sanjay refuted his own references from his own mouth.
Not only did Sanjay cite "authors favorable to Sathya Sai" whose "self serving reasoning" must be taken with a "pinch of salt", he also claimed:
Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like.
As stated before, Sanjay is a Hare Krishna Congregational Member who fully believes in the divine authority of the Srimad Bhagavatam that promotes belief in: A geocentric universe, reincarnation, demons, black magic, ghosts, hobgoblins, miracles, manifestatations, shape-shifters, the Sun being closer to the Earth than the Moon, a demon's head floating in outer space as the cause of eclipses, the Sun being the only star in the universe and all other twinkling stars are similar to the Moon, the Himalayas are 80,000 miles high (they are actually 4.92 miles high), the diameter of the Earth is 807,780 miles (it is actually 7,800 miles), the entire universe ends just prior to Pluto, Lord Krishna literally manifested 16,000 human forms, married 16,000 women and procreated with each one of them and many other simply unbelievable stories (Refs: 01 - 02)!
According to Sanjay, he, his Hare Krishna Gurus (Srila Prahbupada & Srila Gour Govinda Swami) and billions of Christians, Hindus, Gaudiya Vaishanvas and Buddhists are not "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because they believe in either miracles, manifestations, reincarnation, possessions and the like!
According to Sanjay, scriptures like the Bible, Koran, Vedas, Puranas, Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, Upanishads, Ramayana, Dhammapada, Tanakh, Talmud, Kabbalah and others cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people because these scriptures discuss and promote belief in either miracles, manifestations, reincarnation, possessions and the like!
Sanjay has effectively disgraced himself, his belief system, his Gurus and his God concept. The hypocrite extraordinaire has succeeded only in revealing his duplicity, self-serving agenda and hypocrisy. No one can believe a fully exposed pervert, Jesus & Boot sex fetishist, self-professed drunk and pathological liar. Enough said.
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